The attempts for science minded people to get through to the crowd that think the Earth is flat are well worn paths. As with all conspiracy theory debates, the approach to getting through is dead wrong most of the time. Trying to use math and telescope related type data is an instant turn off, the FE believer will mostly shut down science based arguments.
It’s no surprise that the majority Flat Earth believers identify as spiritual or religious.
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Quite simply, the extremely religious people are more prone to close off any attempt to convince them they are wrong about science and social topics. They have their answer already. The deity will protect them. Vaccines? Don’t need them. God will protect me. Wars? My side is right. We’re a nation founded on God. Yours is wrong, mine is right. Obviously, my political party is right for the same reason my football team is the best. Because….reasons.
The evolution of grift magnetism incorporated religious thoughts. The con artists found out that slapping the name of a deity on a product of dubious practical value was great for sales. Miracle spring water, magic healing crystals, indeed any alternative medicine idea. All these have a ready made supply of people willing to credit an alternative to what actually helped them. I prayed to get better, and I got better. Even though it’s really just that my immune system took hold and fought off the infection.
What the Flat Earth grifters did do for the evolution of the health scams - add bad science to the mix. Finally, instead of just the golden hammer of, “It’s God’s Will”, throwing around sciency type words (incorrectly) gives you the best of both worlds.
Needless to say, the contradictions abound. There’s no consensus on the exact model for the flat earth, in part because spiritual and science thoughts don’t mix well together. Is it a flat disc with “Antarctica” surrounding the habitable land? Is it an infinite plane? Is it a bit three dimensional with a couple miles of rock underneath the tabletop? Is the hollow Firmament what’s going on? These questions are never fully answered when the FE crowds gather to have a fun seminar.
What those gatherings are - a bunch of people who didn’t do well in math and science in school, religious minded dabblers in alternative science, and those that organized the event getting paid an entrance fee and selling you useless shit.
The Gematria clowns used the two pronged attack of pro religion and anti-science in the early years. Mostly it has evolved following the Alex Jones method of just throwing a ton of shit at the wall, see what gets the most engagement, and throw that type of shit at the wall, leaving the least interesting shit lonely and unadopted at the shit shelter. This can be seen in a very clear example of their system being rigged to never fail - zero.
The claim is made and even worded, when convenient, that zeros don’t count in gematria. Currently, 201 is a super important number since THE JESUIT ORDER = 201 and the cult leader said it’s important. Why this isn’t 21 instead of 201 is never explained. But hey, gematria and hypocrisy go hand in hand.
These days, the sciency stuff is just an occasional blip on the radar. There used to be more things like number of protons, neutrons and electrons and the never ending bullshit “Pi rituals”. I suspect that those table scraps were left to the flat earthers while there’s a strong clique of spiritual gematria activity. And the flat earthers and gematria crowd really don’t like each other, using it to their mutual advantage by the occasional dogfight trying to lure away their respective bases to turn to their collection of bad ideas.
Just like gematria, if someone is into Flat Earth content they are more than likely hanging out with a set of bad ideas, some that are far worse for society in general. Just to throw an example out there-
Flat Earth —> gematria—> other bad ideas —> Qanon —> congressional candidate embrace Qanon —> Qandidate defies all rational thinking and gets elected because base isn’t smart enough to know better —>Qandidate posts right wing extremism on social media on a daily basis that makes national MSM news—>other grifters jump in to get a piece of the action —> cycle repeats endlessly. Qandidate must be right. They’re a Christian Nationalist - they said so.
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